for some time mocksim has been trying to escape the curse of cromwell. last year he supported peter seddon and barry barker with this: http://www.mocksim.org/Barry%20Barker.htm and presumed that was the end of it. mocksim was brought up too, with some idea that cromwell was simply a genocidal maniac in relation to the irish. it always interests me though that england provided an early and significant example of another, less discussed, something-cide, that is regicide. christopher hill, who researched and wrote most on the english revolution (note my avoidance of the less useful term civil war) argued that really cromwell was a bonapart or stalin in relation to the fantastic uprisings in england at the time. in other words he was a politician who moved, perhaps unconsciously, between the different forces, at one point attacking the levellers, at another their enemy, the royals. given the impossibility of realising the true radicals' (the levellers, many of whom refused to join the sick adventure to the island next door btw) dreams back in the 1600s as compared with the 1900s when one could argue that progressive, truly democratic, social revolution was possible, then perhaps cromwell was less of a villian than 'uncle joe'. If such comparisons or discussion are bearable. someone told me that charles' executioner was a fellow from limerick if that helps. ireland had its rich and poor and presumably its royalists and those who opposed the inherent silliness of such institutions.
..'it always interests me though that england provided an early and significant example of another, less discussed, something-cide, that is regicide.'
- ...the French - or so I believe - got there first....but then that was not an execution but assination,(Henri III)something more 'everyday'. What is interesting to myself is the 'De Justa Henrici Tertii Abdicatione' (1589; The just deposition of Henry III) by Jean Boucher - see following google link - The French Wars of Religion, 1562-1629 - Google Books Result. Published by Cambridge University Press Pages displayed by permission - you have to go to the site cached - cut and paste not possible. Boucher argues that regicide is acceptable on grounds of..etc etc Check the link if you are interested.
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Questions:
Clarity required - Reminders of what?
What is occuring? How long till 'funding feedback'? Is Publication date still in dispute?
Proposal:
I have an image somewhere on what 'anti cromwellian dna' really looks like under the microscope.
for some time mocksim has been trying to escape the curse of cromwell. last year he supported peter seddon and barry barker with this: http://www.mocksim.org/Barry%20Barker.htm and presumed that was the end of it. mocksim was brought up too, with some idea that cromwell was simply a genocidal maniac in relation to the irish. it always interests me though that england provided an early and significant example of another, less discussed, something-cide, that is regicide. christopher hill, who researched and wrote most on the english revolution (note my avoidance of the less useful term civil war) argued that really cromwell was a bonapart or stalin in relation to the fantastic uprisings in england at the time. in other words he was a politician who moved, perhaps unconsciously, between the different forces, at one point attacking the levellers, at another their enemy, the royals. given the impossibility of realising the true radicals' (the levellers, many of whom refused to join the sick adventure to the island next door btw) dreams back in the 1600s as compared with the 1900s when one could argue that progressive, truly democratic, social revolution was possible, then perhaps cromwell was less of a villian than 'uncle joe'. If such comparisons or discussion are bearable. someone told me that charles' executioner was a fellow from limerick if that helps. ireland had its rich and poor and presumably its royalists and those who opposed the inherent silliness of such institutions.
..'it always interests me though that england provided an early and significant example of another, less discussed, something-cide, that is regicide.'
- ...the French - or so I believe - got there first....but then that was not an execution but assination,(Henri III)something more 'everyday'. What is interesting to myself is the 'De Justa Henrici Tertii Abdicatione' (1589; The just deposition of Henry III) by Jean Boucher - see following google link - The French Wars of Religion, 1562-1629 - Google Books Result.
Published by Cambridge University Press
Pages displayed by permission - you have to go to the site cached - cut and paste not possible. Boucher argues that regicide is acceptable on grounds of..etc etc
Check the link if you are interested.
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